...Norah O'Donnell: Should there be more women in positions of power in the Curia?
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Yes. I think there should be. And hopefully, there will be.
Norah O'Donnell: When?
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well, I can't tell you what time, but hopefully soon, you know....
(Yeah, "soon", right...)
...Norah O'Donnell: The church says it's not open to the discussion about ordaining women. Why not?
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Not everyone needs to be ordained to have an important role in the life of the church. Women run the Catholic charities, the Catholic schools, the development office for the archdiocese.
Norah O'Donnell: Some would say women do a lot of the work but have very little power.
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well "power" is not a word that we like to use in the church. It's more service.
Norah O'Donnell: But they can't preach. They can't administer the sacraments.
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well...
Norah O'Donnell: I mean, some women feel like they're second class Catholics because they can't do those things that are very important.
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well, they, but they're, they have other very important roles that, you know, a priest cannot be a mother, either. The tradition of the church is that we have always ordained men. And that the priesthood reflects the incarnation of Christ, who in his humanity is a man.
Norah O'Donnell: But in spite of that, does the exclusion of women seem at all immoral?
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well, Christ would never ask us to do something immoral. And I know that women in...
Norah O'Donnell: The sense of equality. I mean, just the sense of sort of the fairness of it, you know. You wouldn't exclude someone based on race. But yet you do exclude people based on gender.
Cardinal Seán O'Malley: Well, it's a matter of vocation. And what God has given to us. And this is, you know, if I were founding a church, you know, I'd love to have women priests. But Christ founded it and what he he has given us is something different...
Leaving aside the historical fact that while the Catholic Church is founded ON Jesus Christ, Christ DID NOT "found" the Roman Catholic Church in its present patriarchal and hierarchical incarnation nor did he ordain anyone, male or female, Cardinal O'Malley's restatement of the Church's policy of excluding half the Catholic population from the sacrament of Holy Orders and its weak theological and biblical underpinnings, demonstrates why more and more qualified women are seeking ordination through independent groups like Roman Catholic Womenpriests.
This Fall has seen two more women ordained to the priesthood -- internationally! -- and many more ordained to the diaconate. On November 1st, in Sarasota, Florida, the fourth Colombian Roman Catholic woman priest, Judith Bautista Fajardo, was ordained by ARCWP Bishop Bridget Mary Mehan. Meanwhile, in South Africa, Mary Bernadette Ryan (photo above) was ordained on September 28th by Bishop Patricia Fresen, herself a native of that country. Rev. Ryan received her doctorate in Theology in 2006 from the University of South Africa with a thesis on "Behind caring: the contribution of feminist pedagogy in preparing women for Christian ministry in South Africa." During the ordination ceremony, Bishop Fresen, as she has often done in the past, compared the struggle for women's access to the priesthood to her country's fight against apartheid, saying that "in South Africa, in particular, we know that the only way to change an unjust law is to break it. And that", she added, "is what we are doing today."
Many more women have been ordained to the diaconate over the last three months:
RCWP Western Region
On September 6, 2014, seven women were ordained to the diaconate by RCWP Bishop Olivia Doko in Santa Cruz, California:
- Penny Donovan, a former member of the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur, who has worked as a teacher, assistant principal and principal. The San Francisco native, who asserts that she experienced the call to the priesthood as a young girl, says that "discovering RCWP in 2012, has been an unbelievable new journey."
- Teresa Gregory, who hails from Idaho, served in the Roman Catholic Church as a lay person for 30 years, the last six of those years as the Parish Life Director of Our Lady of the Snows in Sun Valley, Idaho. She has served both in the Archdiocese of Seattle and the Diocese of Boise and received her Masters of Divinity from Seattle University in 1991. She is currently a building manager for the Blaine County School District.
- Rosa Manriquez, from East Los Angeles, is a retired Roman Catholic sister of the community of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. She is a member of Our Mother of Good Counsel/St. Agatha Church, where she has served as a lector and eucharistic minister, as a CCD teacher preparing young people for confirmation, and on church's parish council. A strong LGBT advocate, Manriquez is on the speakers' list of Gays and Lesbians Initiating a Dialogue for Equality (GLIDE), making presentations throughout Southern California and she also works with the Human Rights Campaign as a trainer and lecturer. She is on the board of the Catholic Church reform group Call To Action.
- Donna Marie Shaw was born in Chicago, Illinois, but currently lives in California. She served as a nurse for over 25 years, incorporating holistic methods of health care into her service. She has a Bachelor of Religious Studies from Global Ministries University. She plans to minister in a new community which is now being formed in Simi Valley, CA.
- Donnieau Snyder, PhD, is a psychotherapist from Modesto, California, who is a member of New Spirit Rising, an inclusive Catholic faith community in Fresno. Her ministry includes serving her faith community, religious education, working with homeless veterans dually diagnosed with mental health needs and substance abuse issues, as well as working with homeless teens and young adults.
- Joanna Truelson, a real estate agent with Alain Pinel Realtors, is a founding member of the Namaste Catholic Community in Orinda, CA. She is a spiritual director and enjoys participating in international missions and pilgrimages.
- Carol Giannini -- no additional information available
RCWP Eastern Region
On October 19, 2014, in Wallingford, Pennsylvania, the following women were ordained to the diaconate by RCWP Bishop Andrea Johnson:
- Barbara Ann Beadles, from Silver Spring, Maryland, has an M.A. in Religious Studies from Catholic University. She has been involved in religious education since 1968 and has worked in parochial schools in Kentucky and Maryland. As pastoral associate, she has worked with adults in RCIA education and in sacramental preparation. Her particular interest is ministry with marginalized Catholics and as a hospice volunteer.
- Norma (Keefe) Harrington has Master's degrees in Nursing and Theological Studies, with a specialization in feminist theology. She is a semi-retired hospice nurse. She grew up in Michigan but now lives in Boston, Massachusetts, where she is a chapter leader for Call To Action. She is affiliated with The Spirit of Life Catholic community.
- Patricia Shannon Jones has a Master's Degree in Adulthood and Aging Studies from Notre Dame of Maryland University. She is a registered nurse and retired nursing home administrator in the State of Maryland. She has completed the Parish Nursing Certificate Program at the Ecumenical Institute (EI) of Saint Mary's Seminary and University, and continues to pursue courses in Pastoral Care at the EI. During her research career, she worked at multiple medical schools, ran her own clinical trials management company, and worked as a consultant with the University of Maryland Institute of Human Virology. She is currently director of the Immigration Outreach Service Center at St. Matthew Catholic Church in Baltimore.
- Susan Marie Schessler holds a Master's Degree in Religious Studies from Providence College in Rhode Island. She was an elementary school teacher in New Jersey and Alabama before becoming the first Director of Religious Education in the Archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey. As DRE, she ministered in two parishes and was also on the staff of the Religious Education Center in the Archdiocese of Newark. While residing and participating in the work of Genesis Farm in Blairstown, NJ, Schessler served on the staff of the Northeast Center for Youth Ministry housed in Paterson, NJ. Realizing the call to serve the poor in inner-city Newark, Susan served as principal of an alternative junior high school founded and sponsored by the Dominican Sisters of Caldwell, NJ, before moving over to the public scholl system. Since her retirement from education, she serves as volunteer Director of Development with Future Potential Youth OutCry Foundation Inc./The H.U.B.B. (Help Us Become Better).
- Kathleen Gibbons Schuck, who has a B.S. in Sociology from Rosemont College and is presently studying Theology at Global Ministries University, is founder and co-owner with her husband of 5 Decades In, a company that provides life coaching and business consulting services. Since 2012, she has been part of the Saint Mary Magdalene Community, an inclusive Catholic community which holds services in Drexel Hill, North Wales, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Over the years, she has also been active in parishes in New Jersey, Illinois, Washington, DC, and Pennsylvania, chairing liturgy committees and serving as a greeter, lector and extraordinary minister.
- Ann Searing is a former nun and member of the Daughters of Wisdom, where she taught for 17 year before she left the community to get married. She served with her husband, Rev. Jeff Johnson, as part of a pastoral team at the Athol Congregational Church UCC, in Massachusetts for 14 years. She also served as interim pastor of the Phillipston Congregational Church and of the Memorial Congregational Church of Baldwinville. She also served in a Roman Catholic parish as director of RCIA, a Eucharistic Minister, and a pastoral visitor of the sick. She has an M. Div. and D. Min. from Andover Newton Theological School. At present, she is a spiritual director and retreat leader.
- Mary Steinmetz -- no additional information available
Association of Roman Catholic Women Priests
In addition to the ordination of Judith Bautista Fajardo to the priesthood, four women were ordained as deacons on October 29th and November 1st, 2014 in Sarasota, Florida by ARCWP Bishop Bridget Mary Mehan. They are:
- Janet Blakeley of Nokomis, Florida, who has a Master's degree in Clinical/Pastoral Counseling from Emmanuel College in Boston. Over her 80 years of life, Blakeley has served as a church musician, parochial school administrator, parish adult education leader, and as a spiritual director. She is presently a member of the Mary Mother of Jesus Inclusive Catholic Community in Sarasota where she will be serving.
- Sally Brochu of Nokomis, Florida, also has an M.A. in Pastoral Counseling from Emmanuel College in Boston. A certified chaplain through the National Association of Catholic Chaplains, she worked as Director of Pastoral Care for the Sisters of Charity Health System in Maine for 10 years. Brochu will also be serving at Mary Mother of Jesus Community.
- Patricia Zorn's ordination to the ARCWP diaconate is really more of a transfer from one independent Catholic group to another. Zorn was originally ordained a priest in 2005 by Bishop Michel Joseph Pugin, a former Roman Catholic priest who left to join the Catholic Apostolic Church which evolved into the American Catholic Church in the United States. The Spring Hill, Florida resident had been pastoring Holy Angels Catholic Community, a congregation she founded in 2006 and through which she has been part of a loose-knit group called the Catholic Diocese of the One Spirit. She has a degree in Spiritual Counseling from the New Seminary in New York City.
- "Nelly S." -- a "Catacomb" deacon about whom no additional information is available"